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 | So what's better: "She's Lost Control" or "Love Will Tear Us Apart"?
Trash Theory playlists - Spotify: tinyurl.com/yxp32pjf Deezer: tinyurl.com/y2mdp8h2 Also if you want to help out, here's my patreon link: patreon.com/trashtheory Комментарий от : @TrashTheory |
 | oh fuc you all you spit are shits shits and shits Комментарий от : @kennyz9958 |
 | They didn't support the Cure at The Hope & Anchor and the second version of SLC was recorded in summer 79 a long time before Closer.... Комментарий от : @Iondeen |
 | I'm pretty sure the count in you mentioned was the Nazi officer assigned number of Hesse Комментарий от : @VinMarsh |
 | Another day, another example of Disney being scumbags. Комментарий от : @sambagogo777 |
 | 3:38 it wasn’t a concentration camp, it was the prisoner number of Rudolf Hess, the whole song is about him, how he escaped to england and how “he could see only walls” he was imprisoned and died in jail Комментарий от : @unitedeasterntapes |
 | Thank you so much for this amazing video ❤ Truly inspiring to get this piece of history with us. You have made this uneventful day a brighter one thanks to it. Комментарий от : @lanyxita |
 | RIP ♥ Комментарий от : @PsyX99 |
 | It’s hard to finish this video without switching over to 24 hour party people 😭 Комментарий от : @JoelSyverud |
 | So proud of the fans ripping Disney a couple new ones for their blasphemy. Комментарий от : @Iomar1975 |
 | I absolutely love the "Depeche Mode/Boys Don't Cry" and "What is this? I've seen it on Tumblr" shirts. They make me laugh every time I see them. Комментарий от : @TheTemujin27 |
 | Atmosphere.. the best song, ever recorded....ever i don't care what anyone says if the sentiment that Johnny Cash took the most dark song, "Hurt" and made it more Dark Atmosphere is still darker and will be until i die Комментарий от : @invisigoth777 |
 | Honestly I got chills by the end of the video. Such a heavy, tragic story. Комментарий от : @nurnknknkknk |
 | I love Ian because he's a fraud. I love a good fraud. Комментарий от : @BOOM-wk5ix |
 | Great but the narrator has a bizarre accent) Комментарий от : @GregoryPaulDavis |
 | Gotta love Jell0 B!! Комментарий от : @PaulO-qt6sq |
 | I wonder how a Joy Division version of Blue Monday would've sounded like. Комментарий от : @paulsteel9127 |
 | Joy Division didn't own the album cover art either!!!!! what are they talking about???🤔🤔🤔 Комментарий от : @chrisgardiner2215 |
 | Superb channel this! Комментарий от : @benitolazio8193 |
 | Tit for Tat…. Get them Hooky …. Disney is evil…. I bet out of all the cartoons from them you watched you can’t name one single Artist that designed it !!! Комментарий от : @libertard6101 |
 | They were called stiff kittens They were Warsaw for at least a year Комментарий от : @spaceoddity2485 |
 | Extraordinary. I think Ian was a poet who felt ill at ease performing. A dichotomy that became his ruin. I thank his soul for speaking but angry we were deprived of his evolving lyrics. Like many young suicides, they are immortalised but cut short of creativity that unfolds with the fullness of time. Комментарий от : @SiriusGoldenSwan |
 | So what Factory number do I find that Joy Division/Donald Duck shirt? Комментарий от : @lazarushernandez5827 |
 | it's WarSZawa ;) Комментарий от : @AlienMinda |
 | Boy, the utter irony and hypocrisy of the House of Cease and Desist copying a Joy Division album cover for a shirt is simultaneously gross and hilarious. Комментарий от : @beemoney19 |
 | WARSZAWA!!!! NoT WARZSAWA:) Комментарий от : @pawelszczepaniak2907 |
 | Bands like Can and Noo? Комментарий от : @e8ghtmileshigh1 |
 | Thanks to this I finally found the 'Gordon is a moron' song Комментарий от : @iliketrains3495 |
 | I want the Mickey shirt really, really badly! Комментарий от : @gabiotta |
 | Outstanding. Thank you. Комментарий от : @johnhebert3855 |
 | Yeah I got an add for lawn chemicals. If I’m watching a joy division video I’m not taking care of my lawn Комментарий от : @bradychristoph4780 |
 | Joy Division's sound was highly influenced by their environment. Northern England is the working class area of the country and it got hit by the recession in the late 70's the hardest. Комментарий от : @jackcarraway4707 |
 | f̷̩̜͚̤͇͔̿̋̓̐͜͝͝e̷̞͍̲̜̔̃́͝e̷̠̭͎̽̂̾̕d̷̛͈͓͉̮̦͔̼͈̳͔͙͊͌̌̊̔̏̊͂̔̚̚t̸̢̛̤̰̯͕͊̀̈́̈͛́̈̒̓͝͝h̴͖̠̱̝̣̼̩͕̥̭̜͊̍͗̋͛̾͋̌̍̒̓̍͝ę̴̛̯̮̰͖̝͎̼͎͙̼̻̻̺̈́͒̈́͐͂̔͒͘͠â̵̬̰͍̾̉ĺ̸̞͌̐͐̉̑̐̓͒̎̊̈͘͝g̸̛̩̥͌͋̌̊̑̌̈̓͝õ̴̡̯̥͔͓̙̪͓̫͓̞̞̣̜͓̅̀̑̉̒̋̇̄̐̋͝r̸̨̤̤̔̆̍͌̾̈́͆́̚͜į̶̨͓̗͚͚̳͉͕͚̝̪̳͍̲͌̈̊͗͛̎͌̌͒̏̒͋͘͝t̶̨̘͕̂̽̀̉͐̈́̎͌̌̿́̆̿h̴̡̥̺̤̳̘̳̜͈̝̤̱̾̐̽m̷͉͊̾̊̽̅́͋͋̍̂̋́̚̕͘ Комментарий от : @russianweeb |
 | I love the videos, the editing, the photos and videos, you’re truly talented at what you do, you and the entire team, I’ve found a lot of new music because of you. Thank you. Комментарий от : @brandonjohnson2493 |
 | 🖤 Комментарий от : @DJSTOEK |
 | Joy Division is forever one of the greatest bands. It's criminal how underrated Stephen Morris is as a drummer. Комментарий от : @deemz312 |
 | so is nazi punks fk off written about joy division? lolll Комментарий от : @kolin572 |
 | Take a band like Christian Death. There name is Christian Death. It is shocking and provocative, and Deathrock. They had a member go Christian (Eva O), and go Christian Goth. Did the Goth community regard this with suspicion? Were they simply too overwhelmed by the backlash and satanic panic from Columbine, that they found this welcoming? Комментарий от : @Dayglodaydreams |
 | I do recall reading that She's Lost Control was inspired by a lady he'd met as part of our job, in his role assisting the disabled settlement dept. Комментарий от : @OldMod67 |
 | Not only the band's genius songwriter, he's also their Bez; years before a Bez was even invented! 😮😃 Комментарий от : @comanchio1976 |
 | Brilliant video, but I was somewhat anticipating a mention of Spoek Mathambo's cover (entitled "Control") and the accompanying award winning video as a notable influence. Комментарий от : @HomespunWisdom |
 | I like JD just fine but I’m down with the assessment that Hannett diluted their sound too much. One day I saw the iconic pulsar art on a bootleg CD of the Warsaw RCA sessions (later officially issued) and it still sounds fresh, urgent, and visceral. Maybe that’s the difference—Joy Division comes off polished and heady, whereas Warsaw was raW. Комментарий от : @robderiche |
 | 31G350125 isn't a concentration camp number, it was Rudolf Hess' POW number. Комментарий от : @streetwithoutjoy |
 | It's very sad what happened to Ian, but otherwise we wouldn't have New Order... Комментарий от : @brilliantmiami |
 | great vid / til the end he lost control, of everything? subjective? maybe, in the end, he took control, of everything? Комментарий от : @onedone2011 |
| algorithmic Комментарий от : @onedone2011 |
 | Another great segment. Thanks for discussing an innovative band. Shawn R., Mo-Mutt Music/Sacred & Secular Комментарий от : @Mo-MuttMusic |
 | this video is just what i needed right now. Комментарий от : @cyberjake2020 |
 | 120 dislikes? 120 people who lost control in knowing what good music is! Комментарий от : @scarecrow7313 |
 | The whole "we don't do t-shirts" thing really bit them in the ass later. When they (as New Order) were being investigated by the taxman, he asked why they hadn't shown receipts for the money earned from t-shirts. They gave a long spiel about how they didn't do merch because it was "blatant profiteering, the work of the devil, etc, etc," to which the man responded "How come everywhere I go, I see Joy Division t-shirts, then?" They didn't have an answer and, as such, were fined 20,000 pounds, the highest ever fine at that time. Комментарий от : @Poopscipade |
 | Hooky said that working with Martin Hannett was a nightmare.. Комментарий от : @peternagy-im4be |
 | Such a sad story, think of his poor daughter :( Комментарий от : @heikkijhautanen4576 |
 | This looks very close to rock'n'roll stories video on Joy Divison?? Комментарий от : @ape8782 |
 | it's not Warzsawa, but Warszawa :) (ok, I know Polish spelling may be hard) Комментарий от : @arekkrolak6320 |
 | The "counting" on Warsaw is Rudolph Hess' prisoner number, the song's about him. Remember "You all forgot Rudolph Hess"? Комментарий от : @markmac495 |
 | The surviving members have stated that they first noticed Ian because he was wearing a tshirt that said HATE . Комментарий от : @vasp99 |
 | Always heard of this band & how influential they were supposed to be, but never understood their significance Комментарий от : @queazy03 |
 | Thank you for not romanticizing a person's inner struggles. FYI, Warszawa is pronounced Var-SHA-va in Polish. Комментарий от : @hourslookingsideways7850 |
 | Man, every track on Unknown Pleasures sounds better live. Hannett's production sucks the life out of these amazing songs. Комментарий от : @error4159 |
 | JD forever ❤️ Комментарий от : @whereispie |
 | Huge thank you for not talking about Love Will Tear Us Apart. Комментарий от : @spurv |
 | Joy Division named Siouxsie and the Banshees as of their primary Influences. Siouxsie and the Banshees's first John Peel Session dated from November 1977 - that day, Siouxsie and the Banshees premiered their song "Metal Postcard" with machine-like drums, bass as the leading instrument and serrated distorted guitar, which directly influenced a then unknown band of Manchester called Warsaw - who then retransformed themselves a few months later as Joy Division. Комментарий от : @carljules3123 |
 | For me the ambience and vibe of Neu! was more influential to JD than the 'Neu! beat'. Strong similarities between tracks like 'Seeland' and 'Atmosphere'. Neu! (and Conny Plank) were the first to make tracks with quite that kind of atmosphere as far as I know. That sound can be heard in a lot of stuff in the late 70s and 80s like The Cure's 'Plainsong'. Комментарий от : @khakigreengills7814 |
 | Writing John Peel and Martin Hannet?? Комментарий от : @gazfunk |
 | Another odd thing there is no video footage of Curtis talking anywhere just 1 audio interview completely bizarre Комментарий от : @TheVioletBunny |
| It’s so strange that all these artists have a death wish like Curtis or gg allin who are open about wanting to die. Very strange. It makes the music of joy division all the more legit in terms of the goth sound Комментарий от : @TheVioletBunny |
 | song is overrated. "Disorder" is light years better. "Ceremony" is my all time favorite Joy Division song, and up there with possibly all time top 10 songs. Комментарий от : @mkn.567 |
| The Doors, Queen, Joy Division=all the best bands are short lived :( Комментарий от : @heikkijhautanen4576 |
 | 600 Комментарий от : @thegeekguy3608 |
 | Ian Curtis' suicide was one of the two moments that changed Rock and Roll (the other was when The Sex Pistols disbanded in December 1977). Imagine what would of happened had not those two things occurred🤔: There wouldn't been a "New Wave" and especially the notorious "New Romantic". Комментарий от : @EricandDish |
 | I live in the small Cheshire town where Ian lived and died, I regularly walk past his memorial stone in West Park Cemetery, there is always fresh flowers and new little gifts and trinkets left by fans, gives me hope that there are still people out there that appreciate obscure but brilliant music... Комментарий от : @ca9968 |
 | alot of the early punk dudes and their suits are very modern. It's surprising. All of these other dudes wearing gross brown rugs these dudes were where nice dark blues, white and black most of them time etc. They look good fashion wise compared to the status quo of the late 70s. Комментарий от : @TallicaMan1986 |
 | This analysis itself is a masterpiece. Thank you so much. Ian and Martin would be proud..... Комментарий от : @teenspirit9012 |
 | Joy d so dam overated they got one song lwtua and it's good but not a classic Комментарий от : @donpeace894 |
 | The best thing joy division did was give Trent Reznor a song to cover lost souls Комментарий от : @stevilkenevil9960 |
 | It's actually quite weird how many amazing bands the UK has given the world. Комментарий от : @berlinocelot |
 | It's a great song of course, but honestly Love Will Tear Us Apart is a really overrated song. I wish other stuff from them got more hype. Комментарий от : @pankace3296 |
 | Bravo!!! I’ve been getting into all your videos recently, I’ve been really impressed with your level of research but Joy Division and particularly “She’s Lost Control” were an aspect I assumed I knew everything about, as always I was surprised and amazed by the facts I discovered. Комментарий от : @Bulletdude |
 | No other band would have combined that guitar part with that bass line. First time I heard it, I couldn't believe it. Absolutely blew my mind. Комментарий от : @praketingrichraft6181 |
 | The best track from one the best band ever. And Ian Curtis dancing always blows my mind. Комментарий от : @metalmadsen |
 | One of the best and most influential bands ever. Комментарий от : @felichagomez |
 | Timeline is a bit wrong. Ian got his first epilepsy attack AFTER "UP" was released! Комментарий от : @marguskiis7711 |
 | Paul McCartney did the aerosol can thing for his solo debut in 1970. Not sure if he was the first one to do that or not, but perhaps Hannett got the idea for it from hearing the McCartney LP? Комментарий от : @jeffreyroedel9804 |
 | joy division invented goth rock, goth metal, goth and dark everything. Комментарий от : @TempleOfTheMartyrs |
 | Who else wants to kill themselves? Комментарий от : @alisdairmckenzie |
 | Incredible video mate 👏 Комментарий от : @corbindalis |
 | According to Bernard Sumner in the Joy Division documentary, She's Lost Control was written before Curtis was diagnosed with epilepsy. There's also a brutally graphic account of the band witnessing the seizure in the car. The drum sound is also examined in the doc, it's largely down to the AMS, a very early drum sampler. According to Peter Saville, he found the image for the cover, he's also very critical of the merchandise the design inspired. Комментарий от : @Sandy-dd4le |
 | They were not named Warsaw after the Bowie song lmao, a least not completely, there are much more connections. Комментарий от : @leadbellymidnightangel |
 | The version on Substance is the best Комментарий от : @vsander09 |
 | Nice video, but just wanted to point out that what you touched on at 3:30 (about the number being a concentration camp identification number) was actually Rudolf Hess' POW number from when he was captured in the UK (31G-350125). Still Nazi related though to be fair to you haha, interesting video Комментарий от : @adamwelland69 |
 | Joy Division is the best original punk bands to come out of England. (Proto/post blahblah I know punk rock when I hear it.) Otherwise US punk is superior. Prove me wrong. Комментарий от : @orielcollins414 |
 | Ian's dancing looks a bit like a seizure.... it all comes together hahaha Комментарий от : @richiedagger733 |
 | The count-in from Warsaw is not a concentration camp ID number, it's Rudolf Hess's prisoner number from his time in Spandau. Комментарий от : @TwiddleFingersDB |
 | Warzsawa = Var-sha-va (phonetic) Комментарий от : @jordanstanley1690 |
 | I believe the record would’ve been better if they left the heavy aesthetic in it Комментарий от : @Jakew9 |
 | The one that made the difference was 'Transmission'. Still incredible. Комментарий от : @trevorbarre5616 |
 | RIP Ian Комментарий от : @peacefrog5449 |
 | Blummin' Epilepsy. Can relate + the amount of pills to 'control seizures' is enough to make one depressed. Glad New Order didn't ruin Joy Division's legacy though. Комментарий от : @nickycotton6137 |
 | Many Joy Division vinyls in my collection Комментарий от : @seagrey75 |
 | I wanted to have a show at substrate gallery just because Saville had a show there. There were so ahead of their time. Huge post-punk northern England scene.... Комментарий от : @edwardduarte7393 |
